The very first episode of “Wait, Is it a romantic date?” is actually officially on wherever you tune in to podcasts! Get in on the one and only Christina Tucker and me personally even as we perform a profoundly private video game of Fuck, U-Haul, Ghost and talk about our primary subject of the week: trust People Are towards You.

We make fun of! We cry! We discover more about ourselves! (Okay we don’t weep because we are both environment signals with psychological wall space, but we possess emotions.)

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PROGRAM NOTES

+ Christina mentions that she slid into my personal DMs about
your

Ocean’s 11

stay look over
.

+ But we discovered she really slid into my personal DMs much earlier in reaction for this insta story of mine:

+ here are a few more fun screenshots from that first convo:

+ And here is while I asked for the woman number:

+We recorded this episode a long time before and I also would want to officially answer my personal first FUG with fuck Jinkx, U-Haul with Symone, and ghost Carmen. (Sorry, Carmen, I like you.)

+The
songs movie
for Texas’ “needed” with Alan Rickman which was formative for Christina.

+A
enjoyable test
of Catherine Zeta Jones’ modern Instagram presence. Okay
here’s another
.

+The estimate I reference from

Detransition, Child

:

“Jen ended up being certainly a true transsexual. Amy had never satisfied a trans lady personally, and her fascination with Jen bordered in unpleasant. Have a look at this lady. She appears to be a lady. She sounds like a female. Above that, Amy thought, she desired some thing from Jen. Something like intimate appeal, but shaded in a different way. Anything closer to the excitement she believed when a hollywood passed by. Of a nameless hoping in direction of that celebrity. The abstract beckoning that celebs exhibit. The gravitational extract of the fame that tugged at Amy making sure that she felt anxious become near, to be seen, in order to be appreciated. Feeling those celebrity eyes go without rubbing over the smooth area of a clamoring fandom, subsequently suddenly find upon the girl, end lifeless, and go back the woman look. That moment of mutual recognition, that is the best possible way to possess the life stamped good, to transcend the privacy of simple enthusiast, of inconsequential gawker. Jen’s had been a noncelebrity celebrity that Amy could feel. A pull that perhaps

just

she would feel. Amy held turning to see where for the store Jen was actually.”



Christina:

It had been bantery and it is since you and I both select banter to be, if you don’t the hottest thing — well, no, we simply find it to-be the latest thing.


Drew:

Yes 100%.


Christina:

I do believe we simply find it to be the hottest thing. And I also believe because we had gotten along very well, we naturally decrease into countless banter, which for people, again, results in hot, cool, dating, flirting vibes.


Theme tune plays


Drew:

Hi, I Am Drew.


Christina:

Hi, I’m Christina.


Drew:

And introducing,

Hold Off, Is This A Romantic Date?


Christina:

An Autostraddle podcast, centered on practical question: delay, so is this big date?


Drew:

Is-it?


Christina:

Really, perhaps it’s actually the work to work that around and tell the audience?


Drew:

Cool. It is very early. We’re going to observe we feel right at the end.


Christina:

Beginning, yeah.


Drew:

Cool.


Christina:

Will we need to tell people whom we are or do we would you like to just method of leave them for the debateable dirt?


Drew:

I will go very first.


Christina:

Yeah. Tell me who you are. I’d love to know.


Drew:

Yeah. I’m Drew Gregory, I’m an author and filmmaker and homosexual and trans, not in that purchase. I have composed for Autostraddle since autumn of 2018. We compose a great deal about movies and TV, plus a large amount about online dating, particularly matchmaking as a trans girl in lesbian society. As well as most of the motion pictures I write go for about trans lesbians, very an actual through line here. Oh, incase it was not obvious, Everyone loves dating. And more than that, i really like speaing frankly about online dating.


Christina:

It’s certainly one of the best reasons for you, exactly how much you simply like to time and speak about it and do-all of the. What I’m planning call junk, just typically.


Drew:

Sure.


Christina:

I’m Christina Tucker. I’m additionally an author at Autostraddle. I’ve been truth be told there since 2019. I am a podcaster and author, You will find made an appearance on numerous podcasts. We co-host a podcast labeled as

Unfriendly Ebony Hotties

about intersection of competition and higher ed and pop culture. I am form of merely online, like a loud internet queer is actually the way I would frequently describe myself. We, unlike Drew, dislike relationship and so all of our podcast was given birth to, i might state. Would you say Drew?


Drew:

Yeah. In my opinion that has been a fairly regular thing throughout our friendship is that truly certainly one of the best subjects plus one of the the very least favored subject areas. I believe there are a lot of means we’re much the same, but that is the manner by which we are maybe not similar. We additionally, we are able to provide this framework but, we did not actually know both prior to the pandemic. So you had been employed at Autostraddle fall of 2019, when you stated, and that I understood of you because of that. Then again such as the very first few days for the pandemic, for reasons uknown we began chatting into the DMs. I do not remember which of us slid into whoever DMs. Can you keep in mind?


Christina:

I want to state, We slid in the DMs because you happened to be carrying out that table browse of

Ocean’s 11.

And I also ended up being like, “is actually

Ocean’s 11

ideal film available? Discuss.” And we had been both want, “Yeah, it is.” After which type following that we really went.


Drew:

Yeah. Immediately after which we just were chatting a lot. And then somehow, really, sooner or later I managed to get the telephone number, right after which very fast into having your number we started delivering voice memos in place of texting.


Drew, in voice memo:

And so I’m only gonna let you know the emotions that I have, and after that you can go from there and respond to me, maybe not reply to myself, whatever. This might be myself being immediate and obvious.


Drew:

Hence ended up being kind of our very own relationship when it comes to year was actually you only for durations, like all time, sending lengthy vocals memos back and forth, which we’d always joke was actually like a podcast. Immediately after which sometime early in the day this present year I found myself very stoned and sent you a voice memo that was like, “what whenever we actually had a podcast?” While the after that morning, unlike, i do believe, some other time we delivered you a top sound memo, you used to be like, “that’s in fact a great idea.”


Christina:

Yeah. In most cases, because Drew and that I survive face-to-face coasts, I-go to sleep and I also wake up to like several vocals memos from Drew, sometimes large, often perhaps not. And in most cases I listen to them when I’m coming out of a slumber. And I also say, “that is my good friend received. She’s having a personal experience that I didn’t discover because i am over here asleep.” And I particular merely progress with my day, answer whenever I feel it, whether it’s needed. Sometimes they’re only, “this is certainly anything I found myself thinking about.” But this 1, I mentioned, “No, that that buddy of mine is onto anything. She’s had gotten a proper idea taking place and we also is carrying this out.” And from now on right here we have been. I am really excited though. In my opinion it will be fantastic. I believe we’re truly fun. I do believe we’re enjoyable to speak with. And I think us speaking about online dating will likely be at least quite interesting for those to hear.


Drew:

I might say-so. I’ve a small amount of an ego on me personally. I’m a Leo increasing and a Capricorn sunlight, therefore. But i really do often imagine like, you’ll deliver me a voice memo and this isn’t even about me personally, it isn’t really about my personal ego. It’s about only considering you are great. Being love, “Oh my God, that is great. And I desire other folks were hearing this extremely amusing thing Christina ended up being saying.” And today you-all can!


Christina:

Really, I’m also a Leo increasing. With the intention that really works completely well. We understand each other well, you, beautiful audience, do not know all of us. So wewill do a little icebreaker to get knowing united states, get to know our ambiance, get to know, i suppose what we should’re into internet dating a good idea, to listen to this podcast and be updated about our flavor. Is that correct?


Drew:

That feels truly precise. I like the theory that a game of, “Fuck, U-Haul, Ghost” will likely be that revealing for our audience. Nevertheless know very well what? In my opinion it will. I do believe the person you wish screw and U-Haul and ghost with are particularly informing. I do believe.


Christina:

Yeah, I think therefore also.


Drew:

I could begin.


Christina:

I do believe you are going to begin.


Drew:

Okay.


Christina:

Yeah. You are actually planning to start as you fell slightly clue the other day in my opinion that you were cackling with pleasure whilst had been putting these together. Therefore I want to see everything you’ve accomplished, ma’am.


Drew:

I simply was actually like, impress, i must say i understand Christina very well. Oh, one other thing folks should know is we’ve never satisfied.


Christina:

Oh, appropriate.!


Drew:

Face-to-face.


Christina:

Yeah, no, we live on face-to-face coasts and I do not know knowing, but we’ve been residing on a damn, Paul Blart shopping mall policeman, so we you should not, we haven’t fulfilled.


Drew:

And yet, i am aware you so well. So that the basic one that i do want to start with is similar to actual important. Like I’m thinking years very long, Christina’s really love whenever we came across and Christina’s love now. So that your three choices are Allison Janney.


Allison Janney:


Who’s my personal small man. You my personal small guy? That’s my 6th partner immediately. The very best of all of them.


Drew:

Michelle Gomez.


Michelle Gomez:


I’m Missy. This is paradise.


Drew:

And Jennifer Aniston.


Jennifer Aniston:


Hi Brad. You probably know how attractive? I believed you were.


Christina:

This is a challenge. Actually, it isn’t that tough. I’ll have to ghost Jen. I adore Jen. I think her work is wonderful. We are both bottoms and there’s very little that would take place indeed there. And I believe’s fantastic. I think that is gorgeous, but that is not will be what is going to take place. Obviously, bang, it is going to have to be Michelle Gomez. She’s a tiny Scottish lunatic. The woman beginning data is peanuts. Countless Scorpio in there, plenty of Sag. That will end up being a fun time. Daily, I’m a tourist. That’s not going to workout for people. So weare going to get one just fun night, maybe a weekend, who are able to state, I don’t know just what details within this bang tend to be. However it’ll end up being fun and she will set off and perform whatever she does. And child Alice and that I are likely to only absolutely U-Haul, merely U-Haul away. We’re going to have a good time. I recognize which our beginning maps are pretty suitable and I think that’s wonderful. So I believed would be hard and it also was actually really quite simple and maybe…


Drew:

Great. I like that. That you could potentially make some proof about these folks, In my opinion is actually stunning, and that I’m actually delighted for your family and Alison, that it’s during the movie stars.


Christina:

Thank you so much. Thanks so much. Obtainable, i needed hitting three things that I know you like. Therefore 1st we’re doing a drag competition model.


Drew:

Great.


Christina:

We are performing Symone.


Symone:


Don’t let the smooth face trick you baby.


Christina:

We’re saying Jinkx.


Jinkx:


I am Seattle’s top Jewish narcoleptic pull king.


Christina:

And we also’re claiming, Carmen Carrera.


Carmen:


Raja’s obtaining nude. I am like, that is likely to be hot because Carmen is nudity and wewill place straight down nowadays.


Drew:

Ooh. Okay. See, I’m very bad at hypothetical games because i do believe through them all day. We do not have several hours, and so I’m probably try to do that effectively. I do believe i need to ghost Carmen.


Christina:

I believe you do too. That has been my personal thought. But—


Drew:

I dislike to do that.


Christina:

You detest observe it.


Drew:

I’m really split between, I am not sure. Okay, so I do know that Symone’s also a Capricorn, Jinkx is actually a Virgo. I have in fact never ever dated another Capricorn or a Virgo. I think, okay. It is just as if the limits are up to i am actually gonna U-Haul with this specific individual.


Christina:

No. It really is like, you will leave of your own apartment to check out they from the road getting like, “Well, we heard everything picked.” I am aware that’s what’s happening in your thoughts today.


Drew:

I think that i’ll screw Symone and U-Haul with Jinkx. And my personal reasoning behind that is that i believe that based on in which they can be at within resides, I think Symone is, based on this present season of pull battle, continues to be functioning through some things and perhaps isn’t really prepared for the amount of a relationship, basically very mean for me personally to state, but I believe like Jinkx has already been, In my opinion just adopted interested. Therefore during my view, if she’s ready to get engaged, therefore.


Christina:

I favor that you’re taking this real world power into it just as if me publicly contacting Jennifer Anderson a bottom is much like, science fact.


Drew:

You can also flip that though and point out that I should U-Haul with Symone. I actually don’t determine if Symone’s unmarried, but Jinkx isn’t readily available for a committed connection. Anyways, these are typically my personal thoughts. Should we proceed?


Christina:

Yeah. This is actually a really a valuable thing your audience to understand. This is basically the amount that Drewshould take everything we discuss. So simply get yourself prepared for that. She’s ready. I am prepared. Here we go.


Drew:

Okay. So subsequent i needed to do a male model because a thing that is actually fun would be that I’m sure that despite you distinguishing as a lesbian, there was a certain particular guy that you’re attracted to.


Christina:

Yeah, its poor.


Drew:

Therefore, the three choices are, Roy on

Ted Lasso

as starred by Brett Goldstein.


Roy:


Jesus, Mary, and fuck face Joseph, eyes regarding the man you’re marking, come on!


Drew:

Corey Ellison on

The Day Show

as starred by Billy Crudup.


Corey:


If he desires shoot me, he’s going to fucking shoot me personally. Really don’t require this task. Really the only reason i am doing it is really because it is fun. I am very, good at it. And it is easier to get laid if you are utilized.


Drew:

And Alan Rickman from inside the Tx songs video clip, “In Demand,” which can be a very specific thing I’m sure about Christina, that she really likes that music video clip and loves Alan Rickman on it.


Christina:

I am… in all honesty, this is so much harder compared to very first one. I’m just starting to feel just like I have to carry out an extremely Drew-level, in-depth, strong diving. I got to reorganize myself personally. Okay. Okay. Therefore the thing is actually, Alan Rickman is dead, so I would feel like i must ghost on him, unfortuitously, because he ghosted on me personally very first — approximately that music video was formative for my personal sex, we’ll feature a hyperlink within our program notes to that particular music movie, its seriously essential, everybody watch it. Absolutely a minute at a gas section, anyhow. He’s a ghost. And so I will in turn ghost him. Today, Roy and Corey, this can be difficult. Corey doesn’t have plenty of sexual fuel for me as starred by Billy on

The Morning Show.

He is only kind of like a turmoil devil, and that’s fun, but I’m not sure, gender wise, if something’s taking place indeed there for him. It does not actually seem like something’s on his radar previously. Therefore I could be inclined to wed Corey as well as have every night of enthusiasm with Roy Kent, and progress. Leave him to Keeley while he warrants, and go on with Cory where he’s working a system of some sort. Yeah. I do believe that is the solution. In my opinion it’s ghost Alan Rickman, whom, getting obvious, ghosted myself first. Fuck Corey Ellison. Nope. Hold off, was that a Freudian slip? Tough to express. No, it wasn’t. I simply forgot. Fuck Roy Kent. Marry Cory Ellison. Wow. I am perspiring. That was hard. That has been very difficult. Alright. Individually, however, I got to complete an actor’s edition caused by who you are as one. So we’ve had gotten Lola Rodriguez.


Lola Rodriguez:


[Speaking in Spanish]


Christina:

Indya Moore.


Indya Moore:


It is a lot more complicated to occur as opposed to walk within dress.


Christina:

And Jamie Clayton.


Jamie Clayton:


Oh, come-on. Women must love that wall structure you have constructed. But severely, I’m stoked that you’re right here. If only the entire club was filled with girls like all of us.


Drew:

Wow. Okay.


Christina:

Because it works out, i am aware you also, friend.


Drew:

I absolutely love the commitment to trans actors, also.


Christina:

Yeah, puppy. Once more, I say i understand you.


Drew:

Okay. It is so amusing if it is queer actors, trans actors, where i am want, “i will fulfill you at an event at some point and I also’m going to regret whatever I state in regards to you on the web.” I will ghost Jamie because she actually is directly.


Christina:

Reasonable sufficient.


Drew:

And also as very much like Everyone loves… I really don’t fall for cis directly ladies, but I do be seduced by trans straight women. And I think that is actually my correct as a gay trans lady.


Christina:

Yeah. It is.


Drew:

But I’m nonetheless gonna ghost Jamie because I think it’s just healthiest for me personally never to make an effort to accomplish that. I think i will screw Lola Rodriguez because I really don’t in fact know if… I’m not sure exactly how much English she talks and I also don’t talk Spanish. Therefore I believe that… after all, if we U-Hauled, I think we’d learn and that might be fantastic.


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